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february 2017

In Conversation

Harish Hande

Co-founder, SELCO

There are different

views on sustainability.

What is yours?

Sustainability is a form of inclusiv-

ity for us — inclusivity of eco-

system, flaura fauna, human beings

and even the person sitting next to

you. How do you do it without put-

ting a negative impact on any part

of the ecosystem. Many are of the

view that Ola and Uber are creating

livelihoods but those are the same

companies that have destroyed the

means of livelihood of several

au-

towalas

and taxi drivers. So sustain-

ability on the backs of somebody

else or at the cost of environment is

totally unacceptable.

In amarket-driven

society is it possible to

do business without

affecting others?

Market-based sustainability is

hardly a 5 to 6 decade old concept

and suddenly we have got sucked

into the thought process because

someone has been doing the propa-

ganda for all these years. The mar-

ket driven ideology has increased

the divide between the rich and the

poor, which was not so stark 5-7

decades ago.

To every social initia-

tive there are several

challenges. What was

your biggest challenge

when you co-founded

SELCO?

As a society we are deeply confused

between education and learning.

Biggest challenge was the percep-

tion that financial poverty was same

as intellectual poverty. We never

Harish Hande, co-founder of SELCO, discusses the challenges of meeting

social objectives through a commercial venture, while Shubha Ramachandran,

water sustainability consultant, talks about her work in water management